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Terry Boot ([info]bootsstillon) wrote,
@ 2008-01-20 23:34:00

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1.
[Terry's handwriting is more rushed and haphazard than usual, as though he's writing too quickly for his brain to keep up.]


[Private]
Anthony is not impressed by my mission to fetch my Dante. Well, I can't honestly say that I blame him, but I do wish he weren't so bloody obvious about how much he disapproves. I know that they aren't particularly important to anything at all, but I needed them, so they become important to me. And I won't lie. I did want to see Mum. I suppose she's doing as well as can be expected, without Dad, I mean. In the past couple years, I've rather wanted to think that she'd do well without him, just because I thought that I would be better without him, and it made it easier to be upset with him, but she needed him. Well. Maybe not needed him, but she certainly misses having him. I couldn't tell how much of it was missing him and how much of it was being upset over Jacob, since, even if he was vile and horrible to me, he was still her son, which means she probably feels beholden to mourn him more than is entirely necessary.

If there's a Hell, I wonder: where's Dad? Jacob is with those who did violence unto others, but Dad -- he might get to Purgatory, but there's still the issue of where in Purgatory he landed himself.
[/Private]



[Michael]

So, let's say, hypothetically, that I were to ask you to buy the ingredients for a sleeping potion sometime soon. Would you be inclined to do so?

[/Michael]


[Mistakenly left public.]
"... You shall leave everything you love most:
this is the arrow that the bow of exile
shoots first. You are to know the bitter taste
of others' bread, how salty it is, and know
how hard a path it is for one who goes
ascending and descending others' stairs ..."

-- Paradiso, XVII (55-60)

(True enough. Dante doesn't know just how much he speaks for everyone in exile; but bread is asked for in various petitions to the Divine, does he just not consider this? Probably not. Salt is interesting. Salt heals bad water [see Elisha, 1 Kings 2]; salt is good [see Mark 9:50 -- "Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another."]; salt is grace [see Matthew 5:13 and Colossians 4:6 -- "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men." and "Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man."]. Salted bread, though.

“Let yourself be open and life will be easier. A spoon of salt in a glass of water makes the water undrinkable. A spoon of salt in a lake is almost unnoticed.” -- Prince Gautama Siddhartha. Not entirely relevant, though.)

Halfway along this journey of our life
I awoke in wonder in a sunless wood,
For I had wandered from the path that does not stray.
...
The very thought of it renews my fears,
For death itself can hardly be more harsh
Than is the memory of that monstrous place!
...
What was the manner of my coming there?
I cannot truly say, I was so full of sleep at
the point where I abandoned that one true path.

-- Inferno, I (1-12)

(Been there, done that.)

(Inferno VII is a problem. What is seven? Seven is divine, seven is responsibility, seven is nominally a marker of cognizance when you're still a child. Childishness. Selfishness. Prodigality. To be prodigal is to be selfish just as much as to hoard is to be selfish. Thus, equated; get the same level. Have I been selfish? Yes, very.)

My profile looks a bit like Dante's, doesn't it? More graceful, I guess.


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[info]wideawake
2008-01-21 05:32 am UTC (link)
...Sorry, what? Ter, you know I love you, but what are you nattering on about?

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[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 05:37 am UTC (link)
Dante Alighieri, 1265 - 1321. Poet, statesman, linguist. Otherwise known as il Sommo Poeta and one-third of "the three crowns." Author of, most notably, La Commedia Divina and La Vita Nuova, as well as Convivo, Monarchia, and De vulgari eloquentia.

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[info]wideawake
2008-01-21 05:40 am UTC (link)
Well, yes, of course, I know Dante, but...what?

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[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 06:00 am UTC (link)
You don't take notes while you read?



(The real problem with Inferno VII is Dante's reaction to the punishment. It's not uncommon for him to get upset about how certain sinners are punished, and he's even downright sad about the plight of the sodomites in Circle Seven, Ring Three [intriguing, that; Dante as an early adherent against the Church's stance on homosexuality], but his reaction here involves his heart being "pierced through," or feeling like it, rather. If the sinners in VII are as infants, he's sick over how they shouldn't be punished for their lack of control. But growing up and taking responsibility is part of life -- which seven signifies, as it's the age at which you're supposed to be able to differentiate between right and wrong and make the right choice between the two. Interesting.)

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[info]wideawake
2008-01-21 06:12 am UTC (link)
I do, yes, of course. Every good Ravenclaw takes notes when they read. My apologies.

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(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 06:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 06:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 06:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 06:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 06:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 06:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 06:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 07:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 07:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 07:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 07:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 07:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wideawake, 2008-01-21 07:43 am UTC
[private to sal and terry]
[info]fullofperks
2008-01-21 06:44 am UTC (link)
Terry.

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[private to sal and terry]
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 06:49 am UTC (link)
Sal?

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Re: [private to sal and terry]
[info]fullofperks
2008-01-21 06:51 am UTC (link)
Don't 'Sal' me! You're making yourself sick with guilt and worry and all that, aren't you?

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[private to sal and terry]
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 06:54 am UTC (link)
Not entirely.

Possibly a bit.

It is Dante, so staying in the realm of intellectual discussion and note-taking is mildly difficult.

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Re: [private to sal and terry] - [info]fullofperks, 2008-01-21 07:03 am UTC
[private to sal and terry] - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 07:12 am UTC
Re: [private to sal and terry] - [info]fullofperks, 2008-01-21 07:39 am UTC
[private to sal and terry] - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 07:41 am UTC

[info]gentle_tabbycat
2008-01-21 06:46 am UTC (link)
Mr. Boot, that doesn't leave a great deal of room for choice, now does it? I believe in a merciful God who understands that sometimes we must make very difficult decisions.

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[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 07:29 am UTC (link)
Not particularly, but thirteenth-century Catholic doctrine wasn't notable for being forgiving, unless one could "properly repent," one could buy one's way out of punishment, or one was a member of the corrupted clergy.

This is strictly intellectual, Professor.

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[info]gentle_tabbycat
2008-01-21 07:42 am UTC (link)
Yes, I'm aware. Funny how little times can change. Different culprits, same transgressions.

Why would I think otherwise, Terry?

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[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 07:44 am UTC (link)
Too true.

No reason whatsoever, Professor.

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[terry + ernie]
[info]earnestlearning
2008-01-21 06:47 am UTC (link)
Don't go feeling guilty again, mate.

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[terry + ernie]
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 06:52 am UTC (link)
I'd feel guilty if I weren't taking notes, actually. This is almost wholly intellectual.

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Re: [terry + ernie]
[info]earnestlearning
2008-01-21 06:54 am UTC (link)
You Ravenclaws think we're all daft, hm? Either way, keep it at just notes then.

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[terry + ernie]
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 06:57 am UTC (link)
Not all of you.

And it'll stay at just notes.

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Re: [terry + ernie] - [info]earnestlearning, 2008-01-21 07:03 am UTC
[terry + ernie] - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-21 07:14 am UTC
[hexed against DEs and supporters]
[info]tainted_faith
2008-01-21 06:49 am UTC (link)
Exactly.

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[hexed against DEs and supporters]
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 06:58 am UTC (link)
Beg pardon?

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Re: [hexed against DEs and supporters]
[info]tainted_faith
2008-01-21 07:02 am UTC (link)
To be prodigal is to be selfish just as much as to hoard is to be selfish.

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[hexed against DEs and supporters]
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-21 07:31 am UTC (link)
I made a note on the logic of sinners' assignments in Dante's Inferno, so as to make more sense of the contrapasso. What of it?

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Re: [hexed against DEs and supporters] - [info]tainted_faith, 2008-01-21 07:34 am UTC
Terry
[info]mklcorner
2008-01-22 01:19 am UTC (link)
Sure but why do you need to make a sleeping potion?

Will you please explain to me what you are going on about?

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Michael
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-22 03:06 am UTC (link)
Oh, it's not for me, if that's what you're thinking. It's just that Anthony's been awake for three days, and he probably only got two or three hours of sleep in the interim, so I want to knock him out before he goes completely barmy.

The Divine Comedy?

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Terry
[info]mklcorner
2008-01-22 03:13 am UTC (link)
In that case, of course I will. I have been noticing he wasn't sleeping either. I will make sure to go pick up the ingredients the next time I go out which just happens to be tomorrow!

I haven't read that in a few months, care to jog my memory on how it relates to you?


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Michael
[info]bootsstillon
2008-01-22 05:06 am UTC (link)
He's pulling his old, 'sleep is for the weak, it's just wasting time, and I'm so much more efficient when I'm awake for three days' stunt, and it's really getting on my nerves. I have no idea how to make him understand how unhealthy it is, so, at this point, desperate times, desperate measures. Thanks for helping out, mate.

Well. I'm nominally Catholic (or that's what the Baptism, Confirmation, etc. want me to believe, even though, frankly, the faith itself is rubbish), and it's one of the major Catholic texts, in addition to being one of the major texts in all of Western literature. And I've been reading it since I was a kid, so it's rather like my literary security blanket, in that way. And. Well. It probably either means nothing, or that I should steal some more of Mrs. Weasley's romance novels instead of doing my usual in-depth reading of the Comedy, but I started making parallels between myself and Dante? At least, Dante the Pilgrim. Dante the Poet and I aren't really comparable, I don't think.

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Terry - [info]mklcorner, 2008-01-22 08:34 pm UTC
Michael - [info]bootsstillon, 2008-01-23 01:54 am UTC


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